Ghosts V. Hotel Renovations

haunted hotel

So last weekend I went to Dallas to visit my sister and we spent the night in a hotel. Not just any hotel- an historic hotel. Which are my favorite kinds of hotels because they are usually haunted or at least have a grisly history of murders, suicides, and murder suicides. The hotel we stayed in was built in 1923. Perfect, I thought, because you know like loads of rich Texans totally offed themselves during the great depression in that hotel. Also, I mean in 87 years someone had to have been murdered in that hotel. All of these things add up to ghosts.

My sister, however, seemed unmoved by the prospect of spending the night in an almost certainly haunted hotel. In fact, she declared that the hotel couldn’t possibly be haunted because the hotel had been renovated. WHAT? Um, I don’t think that ghosts care at all about hotel renovations. My sister believes that ghosts do care about renovations and that they just sort of move on if the place they haunt gets renovated. Sometimes, I can’t even believe that she and I are related. Of course ghosts don’t care about renovations- I mean, sheesh, they are way more worried about haunting and spooking and the like. As long as everything is in the same place, I think  ghosts are satisfied. How else would you explain the haunted buildings built on graveyards or battle grounds? Ghosts only care about location. I could not be more right. Unfortunately, despite my infallible logic, my sister was not convinced. She stuck to her “renovations=no ghosts” theory. And I was so distracted by this discussion that I forgot to look for signs of ghosts. So, I didn’t get to experience any hauntings or ghost-like tomfoolery. Shrugs.

Then, when I got home I looked up the hotel and it was TOTALLY haunted. Loads of people reported ghost sightings and unexplained haunting-like incidents. And I didn’t see anything. Or get haunted. Because I was too involved in a ghost v. renovations discussion. Also, I read that the hotel is really popular with celebrities but I didn’t see any of those either.

So, what side are you on in the great ghosts v. renovations debate of 2010?

26 thoughts on “Ghosts V. Hotel Renovations

  1. I’m not sure I believe in ghosts but I don’t see why that should stop me contributing to the debate…

    This is our local castle: http://www.tamworthcastle.freeserve.co.uk/opening.htm

    The walls, probably built in the 1180s (no, that’s not a typo, 1180s!) are the oldest part and the rest has been built and rebuilt like crazy in the many many years between then and now, yet my manager saw a ghost there on New Years’ Eve a couple of years ago. So that one obviously wasn’t driven out by the ridiculous number of renovation it must have gone through.

    I’m getting married there in the spring. If there are any ghosts in my wedding photos I don’t know if that will make me rethink my stance on ghosts or if I’ll just think the photographer wasn’t as good as I hoped, letting those wraiths get into the shot.

  2. Your reasoning makes a lot of sense to me. I think it would make sense that if a building were completely demolished and replaced with a new building, the ghosts might go away, but as long as part of the original structure remained, they’d probably stick around.

    I suppose I should confess that I *like* the idea of ghosts still being around even after a renovation, so I may be biased to side with you on this one.

    I’m sorry you didn’t get a chance to have any ghost encounters, though. Maybe you should go back with someone who won’t distract you with debates.

  3. Christina Adleman says:

    Yeah uh… your sis is confused. It’s the location, not the building… duh! Haha, not that I truly believe in ghosts, I just like the romanticism of it all. Sorry, but that’s how I stand. : )

  4. No way a little old renovation could keep a good ghost down. Hasn’t your sis ever seen 1408? Like the tortured undead are gonna be dissuaded by a little ol’ power drill and some drywall. All this ghost talk is reminding me of Scrooged, one of my all-time favorite movies. Also I think my hair brush just laughed at me.

  5. OpentoAdventure says:

    I’m with you on this one. There’s absolutely no reason that ghosts would care about renovations. Unless they were the ghosts of renovators. Then maybe they’d haunt a place so the owner would renovate it, just as the ghosts ofthe renovators didn’t get the chance to since they were killed in a terrible renovation preparation accident.

    Even then though, maybe they’d be disappointed in the renovations and continue to haunt the location because they can’t believe that the living so terribly misunderstood their wordless, scary haunting attempts to convey their design visions.

    So either way, ghosts will always haunt. Renovations or no.

    1. OpentoAdventure says:

      I forgot to mention the other side to the disappointed renovator ghost argument. They could be SO pleased with the rest that they stick around for eternity; now that their location is as amazing as they wanted it to be.

      Ghosts will be ghosts – and they will always scare me.

  6. I prefer to consult with the ghosts and get their input on any renovations. This accomplishes two things: 1) I don’t risk the chance of cheesing the ghosts off into doing something truely horrific (like re-enacting the entire series of George Romero “Dead” series of films during a gathering of friends and family), and 2) ghosts have a historical perspective of what decor has failed previously so i can avoid any renovating faux pas

  7. I thought when you renovate a building or house (whatever) that stirs the ghosts up to be more visible or present or basically scare the living daylight out of you more.

    What you should have done was in your hotel room maybe start like scraping away at the paint and see what happens.
    Or if all else fails chant “Bloody Mary” into a mirror anywhere from three to one-hundred times, turn the lights off and on, flush the toilet over and over.

  8. This does not hold up. Look at POLTERGEIST. Sheesh. Renovate all you’d like. The spirits will not be appeaased, the hauntings will continue, the children will get sucked into the television, and the meat will still creep across the countertops. Duh!

  9. craig78681 says:

    “I forgot” is a classic and effective excuse (not reason) for failure. Well played. But you will have to give Steve Martin credit for discovering it.

  10. Maybe it’s an option; a personal preference of the ghosts themselves. Like, maybe some are really attached to the property itself, regardless of the decor. It’s all about location-location-location. They like the view or the neighborhood, or the grounds themselves.

    And perhaps others are more attached to the familiarity of the surroundings (living in their own past… or so to speak, since obviously they aren’t living and what other past could they live in?) so they are more inclined to move on when the renovations happen.

    Not to mention being annoyed by all the hammering and stuff. Who would choose THAT for their afterlife?

    Incidentally – *not to overthink it or anything* – probably the burial grounds comparison doesn’t work as then the ghosts are probably attached to their own remains, and the hotel wouldn’t be pertinent unless it was built on burial grounds, or if their body was somewhere in the structure itself, unaffected by renovations.

    1. Well reasoned but I’m pretty sure I’m still right. Especially since my subsequent research revealed the hotel to definitely be haunted. Also, good point about burial grounds. I need to think through that.

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